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1st November 2007, 01:23 AM
Hi all

I used rio-m 205 litres to lean beachstart and harness three month ago. now it too large and wider for me.

I try a 120litres board it's hard but fun.

I'll find a new board to lean water star and jibe. play small wave
is fun.

I am 56 kg / 171 cm

1st November 2007, 04:13 AM
Hi xmlshop,
Hmmmm..... quite a range of boards there on your short list.
How serious are you about "playing in small waves"..... until you can jibe and
water start, getting into waves is a little on the dangerous side. Mostly dangerous
to your gear and rig, as even small waves can take the board and rig away from you
and tumble them/pogo them/ etc.
Probably better to learn your jibes and waterstarts in fairly flat water (chop, even lots of it is OK here) then think about playing in the waves.
You are really a light weight, bo I'm puzzled that you found the 120 liters board (what board was this....>) hard to sail.
Here's the specs on the boards on your short list:
GO 122 122 244 71.5 46.7 TBA 5.5-9.0 Freeslalom Swift 400 S-Flex 32-44 Tuttle
GO 133 133 245 76.0 50.0 TBA 5.0-9.5 R13 Race SL 480 S-Flex 40-50 Tuttle
The GO boards only come in TuffSkin, so they are going to be pretty heavy compared
to the Kombat or Futura.
If you are beyond getting slammed over the front of the board and having damage on the nose of the board, then you may not need the added durabilty and weight.

Kombat 122 122 235 72 46.6 7.3 7.7 - 5.5-9.0 Freeride Flow 360 28-42 Tuttle
A very nice board, but will it be a good choice as "the next step" beyond the Rio
I'd like to think that you have the skills to use this board in small waves, but I think you'll probably need at least one more season for that to be a reality.

Futura 122 122 244 71.5 46.7 7.15 7.55 5.5-9.0 Freeslalom Swift 400 32-44 Tuttle
Futura 133 133 245 76.0 50.0 7.7 8.2 6.0-9.5 R13 Race SL 480 40-50 Tuttle
I've included the Futura here as it's really, in my opinion, a better board for a progressing sailor as you've described yourself.
Since you are so light, you may even want to look at boards in the 110 liter range.
Hope this helps,

1st November 2007, 12:00 PM
30% time international sea scale 4. other time international sea scale 3

wind 20-35 or higher.

i'll try go 133 in first

Thank you very much.


2nd November 2007, 06:07 AM
Hi again xmlshop,
Hmmmm.... Where do you see/locate/find/etc the "international sea scale".
Are you talking about the Beaufort Scale of windspeeds and sea conditions?
If you have winds 20-35 knots all the time, the Go/Futura 133 is far too large for
as sailor your size.
What size sails do you use most often?
I would think, at 56 kilos, you would be much more comfortable and learn alot faster on
a 100 liter or less board.
Kombat 96 ltr,.....Futura 93 or 101 ltr.
The 133 would be good for sails in the 7.5 m2 + range and wind speeds around 12-18 knots, not more than this.
Is your windspeed in knots?
Hope this helps,

2nd November 2007, 11:35 AM
Hi roger

windspeed 20-35knots

I used 4.7 and 5.5 sail most often. 4.7 sail is ok in wind 30-40knots.

I used 5.5 sail when wind 15-30knots and sleep when wind < 15knots :)

I play windsurfer at china sanya or dalian city. in winter wind is strong

2nd November 2007, 10:10 PM
Hi xmlshop,
Hmmmm.... very interesting!
I wonder how you are measuring the wind speed.
30-40 knots is usually 85 liter boards (even for sailors much heavier than your 56 kg.) and 4.2 m2 or sails.
If you are indeed using a 5.5 m2 sail in more than 20-22 knots, I can see why you are having some issues. Did you use these size sails on the Rio M?
When you get on smaller boards (around 100 liters and less) you will find you don't need a 5.5 m2 for 20 knots+ and you for sure don't need a 4.7 m2 for 28 knots or more.
You'd be pretty much blown off the water with sails that large.
Sorry, something isn't clicking into place here.
If you are 56 kg. for 20 knots you might g0 4.8-5.2 m2 but you don't need anything larger than this.
For 25 knots 4.2-4.7 m2 should be good.
For a solid 30 knots, 3.8-4.2 m2 would be about right
For 40 knots, 2.8-3.5 m2 would be about all I could ever handle and I weigh 80 Kg.
Hope this helps,

2nd November 2007, 10:59 PM
offshore wind is lower than deep sea.

yes ! 5.5 is larger for me. in high wind use it in danger

some time rio-m is blown off water :cool: