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Old 14th October 2017, 05:55 PM   #1
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Default Phantom 320 (2014) vs Phantom 299 my experaince

Hi,

Due to some quality issue's I was forced to replace my Phantom 320 (2014) tuffskin with a Phantom 299 3DX and after a few month's I want to share my personal + and -'s with you. My only problem is that I'm the only raceboarder on my surfspot's so it's my personal experiance/feeling with no option to compare with others!

+ on only the fin feeling as if it is a big slalomboard;
+ gybe's almost as my Isonic 124;
+ better getting on the plane on only the fin;
+ better staying on the plane on only the fin;
+ daggerboard down track in front upwind earlier in the upwind straps;
+ equal downwind speeds despite much bigger fin's;
+ due to it's thickness the dagger retracks almost in the board and no
second row of upwind straps more free space on the deck ;
+ great and very controlable in shoppy conditions;
- due to more thickness is getting on the board a bigger .....;
- until now slower maxspeeds upwind on my gps (better angel?);
(edit: yesterday's session almost as fast ...)
- in general more technical to sail (mainly upwind!);
- in 5-8 knt's condition's less relaxed to sail due to deckshape no flat spot
where I want to put my feet.

? Durability 3DX versus tuffskin, I hope it wil last as long as my Hybrid Formula and not as short as my Phantom 320...

Despite my -'s I love the board more than the P320 to sail and I don't mis my US147 which I sold to have budget for this board. I had already spent my 2017 windsurfing budget on other stuff and didn't want to spent more money on windsurfing.
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Old 16th October 2017, 04:27 PM   #2
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Hi Agr64,

Thanks for the feedback.

The speed difference in non-planing, upwind mode between the Phantom 320 and the new 299 can be attributed to the shorter length of the 299. We found the 299 to have the best upwind angles ever; beating the 377 and 377L in most conditions.

Noted on the deck shape and technicality of it; we will try to improve on that for the next version.

Thanks,
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Old 17th October 2017, 01:34 AM   #3
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Dear Antoine,

First thanx's for 'freeing' my post! Have done my post submit editing....

Regards,
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Old 20th January 2018, 06:08 PM   #4
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... other P299 owner's for some sharing of windsurf data?
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